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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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for

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masses

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yeah man how you doing how you doing

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today's wednesday may 26

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2021.

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147 days into the new year only 218 days

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left we are live

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from a bunker

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a total undisclosed location but

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it is beautiful how you doing how you

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doing all right

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network and ktra the planets

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our murals jimmy church what is cracking

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how you doing all right i have to say

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that's me in the bunker today

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that's pretty good

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i'm gonna like that

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i gotta click on like

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you gotta see these gifts at the fader

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knots post up in the sandbox hashtag f2b

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it's pretty cool

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pretty cool and start the show off with

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pure entertainment

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let me see what i got going on here

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i'm using the one that you sent me

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i am live on

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i am live

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i'm live on the air right now

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reading your text

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to the audience i'm just letting you

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just letting you know that sean stone

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john stone is our guest tonight he is

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with his new project best

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that he is working on right now we're

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going to be discussing that it is also

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going to premiere at ufo megacon june

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in person we'll be talking about that uh

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uh tonight tomorrow night on the show um

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that is going to be great

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um hang on i'm going to text

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this is live radio man

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this is great this is great

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very excited about that and uh so there

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you go and then we're gonna go to open

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lines what a great way to kick off vader

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night and start that discussion and that

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and uh i do want to say this now

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is dedicated uh to my father john

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who uh passed away uh early this morning

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i got that out

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rest in peace john okay

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where am i where am i laughlin nevada

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it is uh going to be great and

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ufo megacon and the links are over at

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and uh you know i was talking to rita uh

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it's it's the show it's the show

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and i'm like that wall is me

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keep me focused okay all right let's

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move on follow me on twitter

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at j church radio follow me on twitter

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watching from any questions or comments

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post it right there i will see it and of

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and uh let's uh let's get

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the alaska volcano observatory and the

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the publication which was released today

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a new study of turkey bones that were

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in 2024.

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orbit in 2024 now the company which has

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would be mega constellation operator one

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web to work together on advancing debris

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removal technology now check this out

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the program would remove multiple

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the orbital junk collector would push

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to burn up and then return turn around

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it's absolutely incredible it's up there

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right now they've already shouted into

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space they're getting ready to start

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pushing satellites

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crazy well it was announced today

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a lost

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to rival physicist

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recently sold to an anonymous collector

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for 1.2 million dollars at auction the

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handwritten letter which i looked at

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it's pretty interesting

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includes einstein's famous e equals mc

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square equation and is one of just four

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collectors were also drawn to the letter

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the need for

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a unified field theory how cool is that

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you know that single theory that ties

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together all of the fundamental forces

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of nature

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currently considered to be the holy

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grail of modern physics 1.2 million

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dollars right there too

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e equals m c squared

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in his own handwriting it's pretty cool

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let's get to show crack and happy

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birthday to today

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helen and bonham carter

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today

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is 55 fight club

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fish yeah

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i like helena she's great stevie nicks

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today

289
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73

290
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lenny kravitz

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today

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is 57

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and uh i you know i met lenny

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i

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2000

296
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uh it was pretty cool lenny very cool

297
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dude matt stone today is 50 south park

298
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our dead guy's birthday today is you

299
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know where i'm going you know

300
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miles davis

301
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1926 to 1991 died at the age of 65.

302
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miles

303
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was a trumpeter we know that a

304
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bandleader we know that and a composer

305
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but what we absolutely know is fact

306
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that he is among the most influential

307
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and acclaimed figures in the history of

308
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music

309
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his albums like the birth of cool round

310
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about midnight milestones and kind of

311
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:14,880
blue we're all game changers no question

312
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:16,720
about it listen the kind of blue did it

313
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today

314
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:20,800
but uh for me it will always be sketches

315
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:24,000
of spain that album just stirs emotions

316
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:26,560
in me it's an incredible record his

317
00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:29,759
seven steps to heaven introduced bassist

318
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ron carter pianist herbie hancock and

319
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drummer tony williams one of the

320
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greatest greatest quartets ever and

321
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later adding wayne shorter and

322
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another breakthrough record miles smiles

323
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on september 28 1991 miles died in the

324
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hospital in santa monica california he

325
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was 65 years old his death was

326
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attributed to the combined effects of a

327
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stroke pneumonia

328
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and respiratory failure

329
00:17:02,829 --> 00:17:00,880
happy birthday miles davis dude changed

330
00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:02,839
the world no question about it fader

331
00:17:06,789 --> 00:17:05,760
fact okay

332
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now

333
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i checked this out and i also checked

334
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out the rally cries of the children of

335
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canada

336
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when they did

337
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the candy bar

338
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as the five cent chocolate war

339
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,079
the five cent war and the chocolate

340
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candy bar strike

341
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,600
was a short-lived 1947 protest by

342
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canadian children

343
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over the increase in the price of

344
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chocolate bars

345
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from 5

346
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to 8 cents

347
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and that

348
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shae guevara

349
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i had to i just had to go there i had to

350
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go there tonight sean stone is here

351
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sean is texting me now

352
00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,880
and uh

353
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,360
uh going okay jimmy uh i'm ready to go

354
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:03,520
what are we doing what are we doing and

355
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:05,200
so i guess i'm gonna have to pull this

356
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off uh during

357
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:09,919
uh the break here in a few minutes and

358
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,150
we'll figure this out i'm i'm good to go

359
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:18,799
i'm where i need to be

360
00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:21,360
we'll see if sean's here if uh

361
00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:24,320
this will be the quickest shift to an

362
00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:25,600
ama

363
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river moon coffee i'm going there right

364
00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:34,720
now river moon coffee what a day which

365
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:43,029
what a day

366
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,110
so tomorrow night

367
00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:54,789
tomorrow night we have ray santilli

368
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,360
joining us for the first half of uh

369
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:59,039
fader night okay he's gonna be joining

370
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,400
us and

371
00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:02,320
it's gonna be a very very interesting

372
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:04,000
conversation there's no question about

373
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:05,600
it and ray and i have tried to get

374
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,039
things together for many years and

375
00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,600
finally we we have a chance to chat

376
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:11,360
and i want to thank dave altman i know

377
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:13,039
he's listening now dave thank you for

378
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,720
putting things together today we were

379
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,400
very busy but we pulled it off it's

380
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,600
going to be great

381
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:19,120
anyway

382
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,480
um

383
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:22,960
i've looked at this image

384
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,120
of the frame of film all day today

385
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:29,280
and uh you know from the alien autopsy

386
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,720
if you haven't seen it it's up in my

387
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,400
twitter feed and

388
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,000
we've got it up there and

389
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,760
one of the fader knots can go ahead and

390
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,240
uh do that now and i'll retweet it for

391
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:40,640
everybody but anyway

392
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:44,880
i have to say uh looking at this image

393
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,000
this may be the real deal

394
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:49,679
and i'll get back to that in a minute or

395
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:51,039
two but

396
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,600
but for those of you who were not around

397
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:56,320
25 years ago when the alien autopsy took

398
00:20:04,830 --> 00:19:59,360
over the world and let me tell you

399
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,840
this was a very very big deal back then

400
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,360
huge huge

401
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:09,679
there was the publicity

402
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,400
man the marketing the live fox

403
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,640
tv special event

404
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,120
the video release

405
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,440
it was it was it was incredible stan

406
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:20,799
winston

407
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,760
you know cyril whacked everybody chiming

408
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,600
in on this it was

409
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,840
it was it was incredible it was to the

410
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:28,880
extreme

411
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:30,240
all right and if you weren't around back

412
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:32,240
then you just wouldn't understand

413
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:35,280
but i'm trying to let you know this was

414
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,320
huge

415
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,400
this was an event

416
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:42,000
so yes i bought the video in fact

417
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:42,960
um

418
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,720
i had to order it from tower records

419
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:48,880
paid in advance

420
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:54,080
and my memory i keep saying 75 dollars

421
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,440
that thing cost me 75 bucks

422
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:00,159
in in 1995

423
00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:03,200
too as well and

424
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,880
it was probably 50 but it was a lot of

425
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:07,200
money and back then you know videotapes

426
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,120
were like 99 bucks if you went and

427
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:11,200
bought a movie or 80 bucks whatever it

428
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,320
was

429
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:14,880
and uh so yeah i paid premium i paid

430
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:18,480
full pop for the alien autopsy

431
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,600
and uh i'll never forget man

432
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:23,600
i came home and my phone rang and i

433
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:26,080
picked it up uh mr church this is tower

434
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:27,280
records

435
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,280
we have your

436
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,360
i was like what i'll be right there

437
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:34,240
towel records was uh literally across

438
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,600
the street

439
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:38,400
and uh went over and got it

440
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:39,679
and uh

441
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,559
uh

442
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,720
planned a party

443
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,120
uh the next day

444
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,200
and i had uh four or five friends over

445
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:50,000
at the house i didn't watch it

446
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,520
and uh four or five friends over the

447
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:53,919
house ordered pizza did the whole thing

448
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,200
and we sat and we watched uh

449
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,120
the entire video

450
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,919
now what i what i remember is this and i

451
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,679
know i've mentioned this before on the

452
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,880
show but

453
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:07,280
it's worth repeating

454
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,320
i remember as we

455
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,480
said we're all excited right this you

456
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,360
know we're gonna watch uh an actual e.t

457
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,320
little gray alien get autopsied this

458
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,159
1947 film and

459
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,080
they had all the presentations leading

460
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:24,080
up to this and everybody chiming in on

461
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,840
the

462
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,360
videotape and so okay so now we get to

463
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,600
the moment of this thing and and the

464
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,159
film starts

465
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,520
and uh i don't know exactly how long it

466
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,679
took

467
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:39,039
but

468
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,400
it was minutes i would say

469
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,640
where all of us started fidgeting and

470
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:47,120
kind of looking at each other going

471
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,710
and uh

472
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,799
by the time we got to the i mean we're

473
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,640
just picking it apart and watching it

474
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:01,120
and and things impressed

475
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,400
um

476
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:04,559
but

477
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,510
i think that we all agreed that yeah

478
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:14,320
okay it was pretty interesting um well

479
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,200
done well you know recreation and and

480
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,919
what have you but that that that wasn't

481
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,440
real

482
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,679
and i was pretty disappointed i was

483
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,720
pretty angry but i did i did pay for it

484
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,679
so

485
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:29,039
you know and then

486
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,960
we uh yeah after the film was over

487
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,960
man i want to say it was

488
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:36,960
was it jonathan franks

489
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:39,440
one of those guys was hosting

490
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:40,559
and uh

491
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,960
frakes what's his name frank's from star

492
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:44,240
trek

493
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,840
and uh

494
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,000
and so now we're listening to cyril

495
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:50,159
wecht come in and give his presentation

496
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:51,679
on it and

497
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,360
and uh there was uh uh stan winston in

498
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,600
in his shop his crew

499
00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:59,919
and them talking about the special

500
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,400
effects and what how you know that they

501
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,000
couldn't do it that this was really good

502
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,559
well anyway and then after that there

503
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,960
were these and i was really waiting to

504
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,080
see this

505
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,039
were the artifacts from inside of the

506
00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,000
crashed uh flying disc which

507
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:17,919
uh were the control panels where the

508
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,480
hands went in right so there were those

509
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,559
there was the beam

510
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,360
the i-beam with uh the

511
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:27,120
the symbols the hieroglyphics whatever

512
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,400
you want to call it on the inside of the

513
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:31,120
i-beam all of those and and looking

514
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:32,559
and

515
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:39,669
like this poster right i want to believe

516
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,000
i want to believe and and i felt that ah

517
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,960
there we go

518
00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:48,080
okay

519
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:49,260
all right

520
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:53,120
[Laughter]

521
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,510
you

522
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,520
in a few

523
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,070
live

524
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,159
well um

525
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:12,400
i was pretty bummed out i was pretty

526
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:15,840
bummed out and so i have never

527
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:18,320
gone back and tried to view

528
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:21,039
the alien autopsy film as authentic and

529
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,840
i know

530
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,000
to this day we're still talking about it

531
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,320
and it's got its supporters and and i

532
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,960
understand that but let's get back now

533
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:30,720
to this frame

534
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,440
of film

535
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,880
because this is where things get a

536
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:36,480
little strange for me now i just told

537
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,840
you about my experience with the

538
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,760
original and me paying for this thing

539
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:41,679
and coming home and how disappointed i

540
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:44,799
was and and everybody knows my position

541
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,799
on the alien autopsy film

542
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:50,159
well

543
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:53,279
we have to remember something

544
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:56,799
this is a frame of film

545
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,679
from 1947 and dated by kodak that we

546
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:01,200
know

547
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,480
how could an image appear on this film

548
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,279
unless it was shot with a camera

549
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,320
now think about that for a second okay

550
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:15,360
this is where my mind went today

551
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,480
now i understand that anybody

552
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,600
can take some old film stock right

553
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:23,679
locate it somehow

554
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:27,039
get a reel of uh unshot film

555
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,919
and

556
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,440
you know uh

557
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,279
load it into a camera and shoot some

558
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,840
footage i get that but it's just not

559
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,279
that easy

560
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:37,679
now you're gonna have to find

561
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,039
specific film stock for 1947. you can't

562
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,880
mess that up it's got the date codes on

563
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:43,840
it

564
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:47,039
um i've seen these day codes uh for many

565
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,799
different reasons over the years and how

566
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:51,039
you look that up and and so forth and

567
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:54,320
the codes but

568
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,919
first you even you have to find the said

569
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,320
reels of film and then you've got to get

570
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:02,720
a camera and shoot it

571
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,080
and well you get the idea so sure look i

572
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:08,720
understand it can be done

573
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:11,440
theoretically but seriously

574
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,240
it's nearly impossible to pull off

575
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,400
could ray have done it could reya pulled

576
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:19,360
it off sure absolutely

577
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,520
so just from that standpoint alone

578
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:26,559
i would have to say

579
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,120
that this may be authentic

580
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:31,120
it just may be

581
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:32,880
but

582
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,269
in the image that is on the net the one

583
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,080
from the auction site that i posted

584
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:44,159
that alien

585
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,480
looks amazingly like the one in his film

586
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:50,799
alien autopsy

587
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,039
and that bothers me

588
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,360
could rey have reconstructed everything

589
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,679
exactly down to the finest details and

590
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,240
pulled that off again it i guess it's

591
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,520
possible

592
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,120
but i don't know

593
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,520
it just it doesn't sit right it feels

594
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:07,200
strange to me i don't know what's going

595
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,399
on

596
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,960
and then there's this

597
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,320
rey

598
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,120
couldn't be wouldn't be

599
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,880
that's stupid

600
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,279
right to post a frame

601
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,000
of the hoaxed film

602
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,559
i mean everybody is waiting to debunk

603
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,080
this right

604
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,840
and he has to know this

605
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:31,200
right i mean the whole thing is just

606
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:32,720
confusing to me

607
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:36,240
you know in a million dollars

608
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,279
right

609
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,200
so tomorrow night i'll get to ask all of

610
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,200
these cr you know i'm i'm gonna go right

611
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,679
there with the right questions and yes

612
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,440
it's ray

613
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:46,960
so we're going to be talking to the

614
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absolute source of everything

615
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,480
and

616
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all i can say is tomorrow night is going

617
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to be a great show and it's a great way

618
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to kick off fader night i can't wait to

619
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speak to all of you after we have the

620
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:03,360
chance to have ray santilli on the show

621
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,000
and i get to speak to him after all of

622
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,240
the history that i personally have

623
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with the alien autopsy

624
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,440
seriously this is fade to black i'm your

625
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host jimmy church

626
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,120
tonight sean stone is here we're going

627
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to be talking about his new project

628
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,640
it is called best kept secrets

629
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it's going to premiere at the ufo

630
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megacon in laughlin nevada

631
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tomorrow night's fader night with race

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and tilly

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i'm real timmy church on the game

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i'll be right back with sean stone he's

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in the battle batters box he's ready to

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[Music]

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so

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that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

745
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nine out of ten geneticists agree

746
00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:12,470
fade to black

747
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is not

748
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your father's radio show

749
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on the game changer radio network and

750
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kgra the planet

751
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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

752
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radio

753
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,790
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

754
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:55,280
your host jimmy church

755
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,400
dedicate this show tonight to my father

756
00:36:02,790 --> 00:35:59,839
john who

757
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,800
passed away earlier today peacefully in

758
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his sleep

759
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i had a chance to be with my family over

760
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the weekend back in indianapolis

761
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:11,440
and got to say my final goodbyes i got

762
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,800
back uh to uh do this run of shows this

763
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,359
week and uh

764
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:19,440
i knew it was coming but it's all good

765
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:21,040
everybody thank you for

766
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your support

767
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and uh tonight is a way for me to escape

768
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and and just get things done and get

769
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:29,520
back to work our guest tonight is sean

770
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,400
stone and he is here to discuss his new

771
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,800
project i'm calling it a project

772
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,040
it's called best kept secrets that will

773
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,920
premiere at the ufo megacon uh next week

774
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:41,440
i can't believe it june 6th through the

775
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,880
12th in laughlin nevada i will be there

776
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,640
sean is going to be there of course sean

777
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,079
is an actor he's a film director

778
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,720
producer cinematographer screenwriter

779
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:52,640
he began his career by acting in his

780
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,640
father oliver stone's movies such as

781
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:56,400
wall street he was in the doors he was

782
00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:59,359
in jfk natural born killers and savages

783
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,599
just to name a few he has since starred

784
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,240
in and directed his first feature also

785
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:06,720
uh greystone park that was a few years

786
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:08,800
ago and it was a great flick

787
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:11,920
and uh based on his experiences with

788
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,079
shadow men and demons and ghosts in

789
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,480
abandoned mental hospitals along the

790
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,320
eastern seaboard

791
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,040
now i would like to welcome back to fade

792
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,760
to black sean stone shawn welcome back

793
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,280
to the program i haven't seen you in a

794
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,839
while man how how have you been

795
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,440
oh i'm excellent man i'm excellent thank

796
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,240
you

797
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,000
it's uh

798
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,560
it's it's been a crazy

799
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,480
crazy year and a half we don't need to

800
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,160
get into that but it's also been a

801
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,320
pretty crazy couple of months with

802
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,960
conspiracies and ufos and

803
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,320
and you're in the middle of uh

804
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,240
conspiracy theories and things and then

805
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,560
we have this new project that you're

806
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,119
working on now which may be

807
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,000
one of the biggest stories that nobody

808
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:55,920
really wants to talk about

809
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,960
and and tonight uh i i can't wait for

810
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:00,560
this conversation

811
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,040
and the first thing is i want you to to

812
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,680
tell everybody what the project is

813
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:07,200
but then why

814
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,560
you think the media and you know because

815
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:13,119
it does get into taboo territory that

816
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,160
nobody really wants to talk about it

817
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,240
well i'd love to know specifically what

818
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:22,320
you mean by it because uh best kept

819
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,760
secret uh the new docu-series um that's

820
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,599
basically uh it was initially meant to

821
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:29,680
be a single documentary it's become such

822
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:32,880
a beast that i'm gonna do uh six parts

823
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:35,040
about 25 minutes each

824
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,480
and um

825
00:38:42,109 --> 00:38:38,160
yeah it's gonna be online

826
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,119
uh we're gonna start off with like 107

827
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,839
media107media.com i think will be like

828
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,839
the first launching point for it right

829
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,800
um

830
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,920
the intention will be to make it

831
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,760
available readily available to people

832
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,800
all over

833
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,200
um the world you know because

834
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,960
uh this is the kind of content that

835
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,839
would be

836
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:57,599
that would get censored as you know very

837
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,839
readily

838
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:00,800
so um

839
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,520
what is it about it's it's many things

840
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,359
actually the stories

841
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,599
um

842
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,119
it begins with

843
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,960
uh the franklin scandal right which uh

844
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,800
you may many people may know your

845
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:16,960
listeners may know from the 80s the

846
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:19,359
politicians that you know were involved

847
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,520
at very high levels in trafficking of

848
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,960
children and pedophilia and all that

849
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,000
kind of stuff

850
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,000
and it goes uh

851
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:27,839
you know into that into that realm a

852
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,720
little bit but ultimately to to give us

853
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:32,160
a

854
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,280
the tip of the iceberg into how we see i

855
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:39,599
see the rules the world is being ruled

856
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,119
right by by people in power that uh are

857
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:45,680
oftentimes doing very dark things

858
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,920
involving uh whether it's pedophilia um

859
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:52,000
human sacrifice even in some cases

860
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,040
occultism all these things are explored

861
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,200
with different case case examples

862
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,000
basically now which is why

863
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,920
uh and we're going to jump into my

864
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,160
second question right

865
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,160
this um

866
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,400
first off i i that's why i changed my

867
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,760
description of this from a film

868
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,440
to a project

869
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,359
right and because that's what it is it's

870
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,640
not going to end

871
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:19,119
in six parts uh there there's no way

872
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:22,480
it's such a a big

873
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,160
subject and it can go into any direction

874
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:28,480
but the other part of this is that i

875
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,520
think that

876
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,560
most are aware that these kinds of

877
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,640
things go on

878
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,960
but they don't want to discuss it the

879
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,800
media doesn't want to cover it and you

880
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:41,359
just said yourself it's probably just

881
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:42,880
going to get censored

882
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,400
and that's and my question to you is why

883
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,800
it's such an important subject

884
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,160
but nobody

885
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:53,280
it's like it it they want to keep it

886
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:54,480
invisible

887
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:00,870
i think the question answers itself

888
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:07,109
yeah oh man

889
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:08,319
um

890
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:11,280
uh i was thinking about this earlier

891
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,079
it's such a sensitive subject and like

892
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:15,520
going back to and you write about the

893
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:18,839
franklin case and like going back to

894
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,839
sandusky and what went down at penn

895
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,960
state

896
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:23,839
that

897
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,480
it was a very

898
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,680
deep and wide so many uh people were

899
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:37,440
involved in that

900
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:40,079
and everybody just chose to focus on on

901
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,079
jerry sandusky when really there were

902
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,640
a lot of uh

903
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,400
what's the word i want to use i could

904
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,400
just say criminals right the the

905
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,880
conspiracy was huge but it was just a

906
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,720
very narrow focus

907
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,880
the media chose to just

908
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,839
only you know barely scratch the surface

909
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,079
as big of a story as it was and that

910
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,079
goes back to the franklin case the

911
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,480
franklin case when

912
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,200
when i started to jump down that rabbit

913
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:11,920
hole and to find out the facts of what

914
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,880
was actually going on with that

915
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,280
um and the people and the families and

916
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,359
everything that was involved in that

917
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,880
that should have been the biggest story

918
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,560
in the world

919
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:24,640
nobody knew about it sean and you know

920
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,270
did i lose you

921
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:36,000
so the point i mean so exactly one point

922
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,430
yeah it's not great

923
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:47,430
sean

924
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:51,760
this is live radio and this is uh what

925
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:54,720
we have to deal with sometimes

926
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:58,160
uh can you hear me yeah now i got you

927
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:02,160
okay good good signals coming back um

928
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,280
yeah i mean look the thing is that

929
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:07,119
you know you're dealing with circles of

930
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,079
power

931
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:09,920
um there's a very interesting new

932
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,960
documentary called sons of sam that saw

933
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,040
netflix my friend josh ziemann managed

934
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,880
to get it on netflix and i think that's

935
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,880
you know it's an important one to watch

936
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,119
to understand that there was a cult that

937
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,680
was involved with the son of sam

938
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,640
murders it wasn't berkowitz the lone nut

939
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,280
you know oswald character

940
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,280
that uh they wanted to create

941
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,119
that's that image and of course it

942
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,800
always goes to like well

943
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:36,480
you know why don't the police

944
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,599
investigate further well there's

945
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:39,760
multiple reasons there's not only

946
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,400
the fact cover-ups are not purely

947
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,280
evil people oftentimes it's

948
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,599
it's embarrassment right it's

949
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:49,280
i don't you know it's i don't want to

950
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,839
expose things that can that can make

951
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:53,359
maybe come back on me because some

952
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:54,560
people have skeletons in their own

953
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,240
closet right it's sometimes um

954
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,040
and you say you're told from superiors

955
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,640
you know if it's think about like chain

956
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,160
of command and how things are told to

957
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,079
you know from the top down don't look

958
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:08,560
into this or don't investigate right

959
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,400
um

960
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,079
and so what the thing is that when you

961
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,000
get into the occult what you have to

962
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,599
understand is that what i came to

963
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,920
understand at a young age is it's it's

964
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,800
real

965
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,720
and this is what people just they it's

966
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,079
like people with a religious or a

967
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,920
spiritual orientation seem to understand

968
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,440
that a little bit better

969
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,359
people that are only trained in the mind

970
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:29,119
and logic and especially in the school

971
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,680
system which is so devoted to that left

972
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,839
brain orientation of thinking right it

973
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:35,520
just becomes like

974
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,319
weird and funny and

975
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,240
right

976
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:42,880
but the point is if you actually

977
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:46,400
understand that this reality

978
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,680
has it is spiritual that we are energy

979
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,640
bodies that there is a god and there are

980
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,960
demons and there are entities that

981
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,560
cannot be seen with the naked eye and

982
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,240
there are forces at work

983
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,480
for both positive and negative that are

984
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:02,880
always working through this creation

985
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,359
now the occultism

986
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,480
that

987
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,400
is practiced

988
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,400
starts to make more sense

989
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,560
and you also understand why

990
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:14,240
oftentimes it said you know to leave it

991
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:15,680
alone because

992
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,920
it can overwhelm you and it can lead you

993
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:19,119
down very

994
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,000
dark avenues that you may not want to

995
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:25,040
go through or you may not survive or can

996
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,000
really

997
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,319
make you lose your mind in the process

998
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:31,119
that's it you know and you uh you and i

999
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,400
know each other

1000
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:34,000
and i know

1001
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:34,880
uh

1002
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:37,359
you have your feet on the ground you're

1003
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:38,480
smart

1004
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:40,880
but you are um

1005
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,079
how do i say this you're you're solid

1006
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,240
right but when you and i'm talking about

1007
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,280
your mind right you're grounded but you

1008
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,680
start getting into these subjects and

1009
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,760
and you find where the subjects are

1010
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,280
leading you

1011
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,000
and you get into these facts

1012
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,119
it can be very emotionally traumatic

1013
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,920
even for somebody like you with the

1014
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,560
strength and the mental capacity to deal

1015
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,480
with this but then you find yourself

1016
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,560
going to the dark place

1017
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,359
how do you deal with it you have to edit

1018
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,520
right you have to sit and go through the

1019
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:18,079
footage you have to get you have to do

1020
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,599
the research

1021
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:21,760
how how are you doing

1022
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,280
are you emotionally traumatized

1023
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,440
i was as a kid i mean like i said i went

1024
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,440
into this very young when i made my

1025
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,440
first film greystone park

1026
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:34,160
uh i was like 23 24

1027
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,280
and

1028
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,800
literally going into places where the

1029
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,359
satanists and others would go

1030
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,520
to consort with demons you know like the

1031
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,599
reason that satanists and and occultists

1032
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,040
would go to these mental hospitals

1033
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,880
abandoned mental hospitals

1034
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,040
and do rituals there and invocations and

1035
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:51,119
ceremonies is because there's a lot of

1036
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,000
dense

1037
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,520
heavy energy

1038
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,079
and i was walking through that and

1039
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,839
experiencing that and having high

1040
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,119
strangeness

1041
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,040
uh occur as a result

1042
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,680
in in my reality to make me realize wow

1043
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,960
this is uh

1044
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,560
yeah there's a reason that these these

1045
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,560
mythologies and mysteries have been

1046
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,400
around for thousands and thousands of

1047
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,400
years and the arrogance of some to just

1048
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,119
dismiss it or you know think it's just

1049
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,119
religion is for is for stupid people or

1050
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,920
something as a lot of the not modern day

1051
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,240
scientific

1052
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,640
elitists right um

1053
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,359
want to to to create this this idea of

1054
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,040
you know it's religion or science no

1055
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,119
it's not it's not because we can't

1056
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,040
explain this we can't explain how we got

1057
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,720
here we can't explain how this universe

1058
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,839
really um

1059
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,280
exists you know we don't really

1060
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,319
understand much about about our reality

1061
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,440
um

1062
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,160
we don't even see much of our reality so

1063
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,680
for me it was it was that was my

1064
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,000
initiation at a young age when i do the

1065
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,319
work like this documentary it comes from

1066
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,559
a place of having studied these things

1067
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,160
having done buzz saw the interview

1068
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,280
program for many years i wanted to take

1069
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,599
some of the the the best cases and the

1070
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,960
best pieces

1071
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,800
just lay out a story

1072
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,200
that i think people can follow

1073
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:08,720
based in

1074
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,680
franklin or son of sam or epstein or

1075
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,680
japanese ramsay right

1076
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,520
and when you start just

1077
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:22,000
poke at the fabric

1078
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,359
you start to you know basically start to

1079
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:25,359
poke holes in the with with the fabric

1080
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,559
that's laid over our eyes by the media

1081
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,720
now the light

1082
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,400
starts to come in

1083
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,640
what's the key yeah the media is there

1084
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,400
to put

1085
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,559
gels over people and we're there to poke

1086
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,920
holes in it so people can start to think

1087
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,760
and see for themselves and find that you

1088
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,000
know their way out of plato's cave

1089
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,000
now there's yeah plato's cave that's a

1090
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,720
great way to put this because this this

1091
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,599
is

1092
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,119
for for most of it

1093
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,880
it's like a parallel world this is

1094
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:54,079
existing

1095
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:57,280
at the same time in our own reality and

1096
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,559
it is real

1097
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,400
and then they there's the other part

1098
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,720
where there are

1099
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:03,839
uh

1100
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,800
individuals in a position of power

1101
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:09,760
that are not going to want this to be

1102
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,040
seen

1103
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:13,839
have you experienced any outside

1104
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:21,349
um well i mean

1105
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:24,800
there's you know again it's it's

1106
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,359
when you truly get into to the nature of

1107
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:29,119
our reality

1108
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,880
and this is why the spiritual work is so

1109
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,559
important you know it's like i don't

1110
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,240
comment i don't come at reality anymore

1111
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,960
purely from mind i come at reality from

1112
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,559
energy from feeling

1113
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:41,040
and hopefully from heart intuition

1114
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,720
people are not

1115
00:49:46,770 --> 00:49:45,599
run and driven by what we think they are

1116
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:46,780
we cannot assume

1117
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,920
[Music]

1118
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,880
that people's motivations are what our

1119
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:52,960
motivations are that's right right yeah

1120
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,079
and when we run things that either flow

1121
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,720
or that are blocked i look to a deeper

1122
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,640
source to a deeper river that's flowing

1123
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,400
through creation so

1124
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,839
when i say that there are demons and

1125
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,920
entities that's very real there are

1126
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:07,599
people in power or in positions of

1127
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:09,200
influence and power that literally have

1128
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:18,470
you would that you know me

1129
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,680
lost you again lost you

1130
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,559
right

1131
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:24,800
but if you can see and discern in a

1132
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,319
deeper layer we realize that oftentimes

1133
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:30,640
there are forces working through people

1134
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:33,520
right but ultimately the universe has a

1135
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,640
consciousness and awareness that we

1136
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,720
that's be above and beyond all of us but

1137
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:41,200
that we tap into in moments of uh

1138
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,000
lucidity let's say right and higher

1139
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,400
higher awareness when we start to

1140
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:48,240
realize wow

1141
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,079
okay there is this collective

1142
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,680
unconscious that's working its way

1143
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,040
through and that's why this great

1144
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,280
awakening is occurring now so that

1145
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,040
people are now talking

1146
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,680
publicly in a mainstream more mainstream

1147
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,880
form

1148
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:03,359
about things that many of us have been

1149
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:06,559
trying to tell people for many decades

1150
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,599
right

1151
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,520
because only when people only when the

1152
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,119
consciousness is ready has the

1153
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:13,599
groundwork been laid and the outlier has

1154
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:15,920
been sown that you start to then get to

1155
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:19,040
this sort of critical mass of you cannot

1156
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,559
consciousness you cannot shut out

1157
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,119
consciousness it's like you know you you

1158
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,200
can try to go back to sleep

1159
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,520
after being awoken but there's no way

1160
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:29,599
that that can ever be erased from

1161
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,200
consciousness whatever

1162
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,359
transpired during your waking state

1163
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:35,920
cannot be obliterated it exists in

1164
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,240
consciousness so ultimately humanity is

1165
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:40,640
growing more conscious

1166
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,599
now um and and putting uh

1167
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:45,839
spirituality and consciousness to the

1168
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,119
side uh for a moment

1169
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,079
is there a time when you made the

1170
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,880
decision just as a person

1171
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,559
as yourself where you went you know what

1172
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,359
screw everything i don't care

1173
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,520
about myself personally

1174
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,319
this needs to be told this needs to be

1175
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,160
done and i'm going to see this project

1176
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,839
through

1177
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:10,240
did you actually did you have a

1178
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,559
uh sunday go to meet and moment with

1179
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:14,800
yourself and and approach it that way

1180
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:16,960
where you didn't care about

1181
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:19,920
uh any effects of you uh with your

1182
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:26,870
uh i mean look i've definitely uh i've

1183
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:30,000
learned and grown in my process um

1184
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,440
you know i i've

1185
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,359
had to say i i reckon i think i've grown

1186
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:35,440
to become more aware

1187
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:36,240
of

1188
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,599
boundaries and consequence and

1189
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,040
the nature of energy and where i want to

1190
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,880
put my energy right

1191
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,640
so that's really what this is about

1192
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,400
because i've always had a feeling it's

1193
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,760
like you have a feeling of your own

1194
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,280
destiny right

1195
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,640
um

1196
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:52,720
i i don't think i've ever pushed myself

1197
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,480
to places that felt beyond uh

1198
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,319
my where i felt

1199
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,480
i could be you know and that's just

1200
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:02,240
throughout my life it's it's just an

1201
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,440
inner knowing

1202
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,160
um that i'm you know that i'm following

1203
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,480
where i need to be and even when it

1204
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:10,240
feels

1205
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,920
mistake you realize that it was part of

1206
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,359
your learning process as part of your

1207
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:17,200
growth process so

1208
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,079
um

1209
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:21,599
no i've never felt directly

1210
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,160
i felt danger i felt i felt some danger

1211
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:26,480
in my life but never those moments of

1212
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:30,079
wow i faced a near-death experience or

1213
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,599
you know seeing the light as some people

1214
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,960
like danny and brinkley and others you

1215
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,319
know literally like

1216
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:36,720
die or you know try to leave this realm

1217
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:39,040
i mean i've never gone to that point

1218
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,240
the um

1219
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,040
uh i'm glad you brought up sons of sam

1220
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:45,839
because i watched it twice it was just

1221
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:49,520
released i actually watched it twice

1222
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,880
and i thought to myself this is this is

1223
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,000
great

1224
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,160
and there are parts of it that are

1225
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,240
really you know for an entertainment

1226
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,000
perspective because i like the black and

1227
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:03,119
white uh documentary style and

1228
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,839
but

1229
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:04,960
the

1230
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,839
name

1231
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:13,599
uh

1232
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:20,160
maury terry yeah maury terry maury terry

1233
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:21,200
um

1234
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,880
my first foray into all this stuff back

1235
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,559
when i first read the franklin cover-up

1236
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,119
and ultimate evil and like yeah exactly

1237
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:29,680
that's the fascination of my life

1238
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,640
it's such such an amazing story and i

1239
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,960
thought to myself netflix is really

1240
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:36,960
taking a chance on this

1241
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,400
because the story about berkowitz is one

1242
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,480
thing and and the victims and the

1243
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,839
parents and

1244
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:45,920
and so forth there there's that part of

1245
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:48,319
it that was out there in the media and

1246
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,520
then you get to the real uh meat of the

1247
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,680
matter of what's going on

1248
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,799
it

1249
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:57,200
you're uncomfortable man you are you

1250
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,319
fidget

1251
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:00,720
that's that is an incredible documentary

1252
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,440
series and i recommend uh that for

1253
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,440
everybody to watch and really pay

1254
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,440
attention because

1255
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:09,040
it's it's going to make you

1256
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,480
uncomfortable

1257
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,480
and this and there's a podcast that goes

1258
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,000
with it by the way people got to listen

1259
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,680
to if they're really into the subject

1260
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,280
it's called searching for the sons of

1261
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,119
sam and josh gets to go a little bit

1262
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,040
deeper into some of the things

1263
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,640
because

1264
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,480
and there's some things in my

1265
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:25,760
documentary

1266
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,950
because you know i think that's just not

1267
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:35,520
to i think to a to a critical thinker

1268
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,200
that there was a cult that berkowitz was

1269
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:40,480
not alone assassin but then it gets into

1270
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,920
the sun searching for sons of sam

1271
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,520
podcast gets into well what was this

1272
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:45,200
cult who were these these people that

1273
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,319
call themselves the children that were

1274
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:48,000
meeting in hunter meyer park and it

1275
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,359
starts to go a little bit deeper into

1276
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:51,599
that realm and there's a hypothesis

1277
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,640
that there was uh a real estate tycoon

1278
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,240
or developer who had a lot of money and

1279
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,920
there were some people with power and

1280
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,680
money that were

1281
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,520
connected to this cult and that's why

1282
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,599
there was protection you go a little bit

1283
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,440
deeper you start looking at people like

1284
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,760
jim boots rosting and what his

1285
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,440
investigation says

1286
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:11,280
now you start to go into the realm of

1287
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,640
politicians

1288
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,440
people in power using kids

1289
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:18,319
uh for either drugs or sex things like

1290
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:19,119
this

1291
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,799
and now you start to understand why

1292
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,559
there was such a cover-up

1293
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,720
of anything to do

1294
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,599
with that cult in its network

1295
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:28,960
the um

1296
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,599
the sandusky case which uh

1297
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,359
uh i don't i don't necessarily want to

1298
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,760
do a deep dive into right now but

1299
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:38,559
it was the same thing that was going on

1300
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:39,760
with that

1301
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:42,000
it was and i was getting the craziest

1302
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,040
email um i helped break that case when

1303
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,760
and most people know this uh now

1304
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,839
uh when everything kicked off and i was

1305
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,760
one of the first if not the first person

1306
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,000
to report on it and post it

1307
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:56,160
but um i started getting the craziest

1308
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,440
email sean

1309
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,200
you need you need to go and look at this

1310
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,200
guy you need to look at this person you

1311
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,040
need to look over here

1312
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,720
from different people around the state

1313
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:06,319
of pennsylvania

1314
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:07,119
and

1315
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:11,040
months

1316
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,160
uh dealing with that and at the end of

1317
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,960
three months sean and i'm not joking

1318
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,280
i said we're not covering this anymore i

1319
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:21,440
can't do it i can't do it

1320
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,640
emotionally i am i'm toast

1321
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:26,799
it's just too

1322
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:29,200
it's it's heartbreaking but it's also

1323
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,400
it's it's scary it's it's it's

1324
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:35,599
petrifyingly scarily dark

1325
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,720
where this stuff leads

1326
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,520
yeah i mean this stuff is

1327
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,000
this is why

1328
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,920
you have to have a certain uh

1329
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:47,280
sense of humor

1330
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,720
about things

1331
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,400
and uh

1332
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:52,000
and balance you know i have to have a

1333
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,119
strong sense of balance but you know

1334
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,960
this the the nature of

1335
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,520
alchemy right when you really

1336
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,839
get into this question of of the

1337
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:01,680
so-called the quest for the holy grail

1338
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,799
and a spiritual transformation process

1339
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:06,160
that we are meant to go through through

1340
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:07,200
our life

1341
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:09,760
it is to excavate the dark

1342
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,040
it is excavate the dark within our

1343
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:16,160
selves within the world around us within

1344
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,599
our you know within the uncollective

1345
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,720
unconscious

1346
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,520
and to recognize that

1347
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,280
these things are within us too

1348
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:25,280
you know the predator

1349
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,789
the the demon it's into that maybe you

1350
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,720
eat it as other as someone else does

1351
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,520
right

1352
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,440
but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

1353
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,480
within us

1354
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,960
and so that's why it is a healing

1355
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:41,280
process the shaman the shame and the

1356
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:43,040
shaman of the old times you know was

1357
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:44,640
about a healer ultimately most first and

1358
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,079
foremost was a healer going into the

1359
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,200
dark place to excavate and then bring

1360
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,200
bring that dark to light

1361
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,799
so that it can be

1362
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:54,559
you know like any wound right can be

1363
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:56,799
healed with sun and air as opposed to

1364
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:59,359
where it festers down below

1365
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:01,520
i'm wondering um sean are you at a

1366
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,240
secret undisclosed location is the man

1367
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,160
chasing you right now

1368
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:07,920
yeah right

1369
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,090
i'm the man

1370
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,599
[Laughter]

1371
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:15,760
i need to take a quick break let's get

1372
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:17,920
that in we'll come back and continue

1373
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,119
this conversation there is also um i

1374
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:24,400
wanted to bring up a friend of ours uh

1375
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:26,079
tracy twyman

1376
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,799
also started to investigate this uh

1377
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:30,480
isaac caffey

1378
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,520
um

1379
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:33,520
both of them are no longer with us right

1380
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,400
in the middle of uh investigating

1381
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,440
uh these dark subjects uh with children

1382
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:41,920
and and pedophilia and some of these

1383
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,400
uh things that were going on and the

1384
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,200
next thing you know uh they're no longer

1385
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,359
with us and i i knew tracy and she was

1386
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,720
on this show

1387
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:52,640
uh a few times

1388
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,680
and it just they got probably a little

1389
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:57,760
bit too close to the fire

1390
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:00,720
and and that concerns me so let's uh

1391
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,240
let's take our break right here this is

1392
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,839
fade to black i am your host jimmy

1393
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:05,839
church i guess tonight's sean stone sean

1394
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,079
you stay right there keep looking over

1395
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:09,440
your shoulder man i need you to come

1396
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:12,480
back after the break all right

1397
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,920
we'll be right back this is fade to

1398
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,319
black i'm yours jimmy church sean stone

1399
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,400
talking about his new project it's

1400
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:21,119
called best kept secrets stay with me

1401
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,990
[Music]

1402
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,240
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1403
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:48,799
on the game changer radio network and

1404
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:53,520
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1405
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:56,000
this is kgra digital broadcasting

1406
01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:57,040
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welcome back fade to black i am hosting

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my church tonight sean stone is with us

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we're going to do one more segment with

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sean and then

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i'm going to go to open lines at the

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bottom of the hour for the rest of the

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show so get ready for that we're talking

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about a new project it is called best

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kept secret started out as a documentary

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and is now a six part series and i don't

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think it's going to end there

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um the franklin case that we kept uh uh

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uh referencing in the first segment sean

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um

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what i found fascinating about it was

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uh

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it was it was basically shut down

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right and it did go to court and and two

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of the accusers i think ended up going

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to prison

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but they investigated this all happened

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in nebraska

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um and the embezzlement of funds at the

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credit union and with officials there

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01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:35,760
were some crazy things that happened in

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that case

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but it seems to me like they just wanted

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it to go away

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oh sean are you there

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oh no

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[Laughter]

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i'm telling you sean is

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sean don't worry

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have a microphone muted for the break

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um

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no just saying that i didn't find out

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any new information on it it wasn't like

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i came with like oh this is a a new

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breaking element to the story right

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what happened was um as you said there

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was

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uh

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were some of the more famous kids that

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got um

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in trouble

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with the franklin case and i think

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alicia

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and troy got the

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book thrown at them for perjury

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basically

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because they were saying that they were

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involved with these

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these pedophiles and and and saw some

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really dark and so they were

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basically accused of lying and um anyway

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01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,480
the point is that uh

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bonacci is a fascinating character so i

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you know i interviewed nick bryant nick

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nick carried on

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for john decamp john passed away a few

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01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,559
years ago unfortunately but nick carried

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on with doing the franklin scandal which

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is a which is a substantial book to

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follow up with franklin cover-up

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basically gives you

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a great insight into what happened and

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then franklin scandal is a bit more

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thorough so i so my interviews with nick

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bryant just talk about how he followed

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up on the case now again

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it's not a thorough documentary about

1573
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the franklin scandal the the conspiracy

1574
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of silence is a very good document for

1575
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people to watch if they want to just

1576
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:21,520
follow that story i use excerpts of it

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um

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but ultimately yeah i mean we're talking

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about a story of

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trafficking of kids

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that were from that poor background some

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of them from boys town uh the orphanage

1583
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:36,400
um but essentially just you know kids

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that were just considered disposable by

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society and not believed by society when

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they're you know when their allegations

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,920
of abuse uh were reported

1588
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,440
now the uh

1589
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uh there was something i wanted to ask

1590
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:50,480
you about uh the

1591
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the uh the male prostitute ring that uh

1592
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:58,000
was part of the reagan and bush white

1593
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house and that call boy ring as they

1594
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:01,920
called it

1595
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:05,600
um and as that started to unfold too as

1596
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,000
well and how it happened

1597
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:10,000
uh was some something else where i was

1598
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:11,679
just like man everything is connected

1599
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:12,719
here

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01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:17,759
obviously is part of the logs getting

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01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,880
into

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01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:20,719
uh the white house and leaving the white

1603
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,040
house he was obviously there

1604
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:25,199
and and had credentials

1605
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,480
um and and had a pretty fantastic story

1606
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:29,600
to tell

1607
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:33,040
but nobody wanted to listen

1608
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,480
uh who are you talking about

1609
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:36,000
specifically in that case i'm about

1610
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,279
banachi uh yes

1611
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,359
yeah yeah we mentioned him a little bit

1612
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:43,359
um in that context

1613
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,120
um yeah i mean look that's again nick

1614
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:46,640
bryant did a good book called

1615
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,279
confessions of a dc madam with henry

1616
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,120
vincent who was the madam

1617
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:54,000
that um was ultimately

1618
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:54,960
uh

1619
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,960
you know again it's like

1620
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,480
they go after the low-hanging these guys

1621
01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:59,520
are so predictable they go up to the

1622
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:01,840
low-hanging fruit right so you know they

1623
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:02,960
went after

1624
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:05,760
the so-called dc madam uh you know for

1625
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:08,080
for prostitution as opposed to going

1626
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:09,199
after

1627
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,719
um

1628
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,480
you know the real the real criminals in

1629
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:14,159
this case who are

1630
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:15,120
uh

1631
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:16,960
look it's not as simple as saying

1632
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,350
well you know how do you say it

1633
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:23,280
it's not as simple as as knowing all

1634
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:24,640
that's involved we know that craig

1635
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:27,760
spence was using it was a cia asset

1636
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:30,480
using it for blackmail essentially right

1637
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:31,600
um

1638
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,040
i should say using

1639
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:34,960
um

1640
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,520
the the the call girl the call boy

1641
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,760
network for blackmailing officials

1642
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,600
people like uh we get it we thought we

1643
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:42,800
mentioned some of the names people like

1644
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:43,520
don

1645
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,400
greg

1646
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:47,120
and bill casey the former cia director

1647
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,159
so

1648
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,080
again it's it

1649
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:52,320
to me it's not about

1650
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,840
people can study the details of these

1651
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,840
cases independently i'm looking at the

1652
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:58,080
big picture which is to say what is the

1653
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:59,440
pattern here

1654
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,880
that we're seeing

1655
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:02,320
of

1656
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,120
compromised by you know be it sexual

1657
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:09,280
strange sexual proclivities

1658
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:10,480
um

1659
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:12,480
for uh you know

1660
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:15,280
you know underage sexuality and then in

1661
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:17,760
a darker level we do get into the human

1662
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,040
sacrifice

1663
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,719
subject because that's another um

1664
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:23,920
common

1665
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,040
allegation of how the real

1666
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:30,000
levels of power are initiated through

1667
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:32,960
some level of sacrifice

1668
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,239
the um and when i uh when i bring up an

1669
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,760
archie the

1670
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,040
in that case which was a washington dc

1671
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:42,560
white house

1672
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:44,640
uh situation with implications

1673
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:47,199
throughout washington dc but it goes all

1674
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:49,520
the way back to omaha nebraska

1675
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,719
and it's it's an incredible incredible

1676
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,480
story how

1677
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:56,400
things get connected and you start to

1678
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,000
branch out from that

1679
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:59,840
and now you're outside of the country

1680
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:01,679
and you're in different corporations and

1681
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,440
you're at different levels

1682
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,239
and it's it's it's it's amazing how that

1683
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:08,400
trail starts to get put together isn't

1684
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:13,030
um

1685
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:14,960
yeah i mean again the franklin

1686
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:18,239
the franklin scandal uh

1687
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:20,000
that you know that itself is just it's a

1688
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,719
huge story and again to me that's only

1689
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,560
the tip of like that's just an entree

1690
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:26,239
it's like the entry this is the entry

1691
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,400
point right into

1692
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:30,080
you know how these things

1693
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,120
are

1694
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,600
covered up and go on

1695
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,600
at such high levels and

1696
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:37,920
if people can understand that these kind

1697
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,880
of cover-ups and conspiracies exist

1698
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,159
then all of a sudden it's like you're

1699
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,760
not the crazy one

1700
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,960
anymore

1701
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,360
right who's who's out there talking

1702
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,760
about you know cue conspiracies or

1703
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:51,360
whatever i mean it's just like

1704
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,440
this stuff's been around for so long

1705
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,840
it's it's as lame to talk about

1706
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:57,679
these things as though they were just

1707
01:13:01,430 --> 01:13:00,320
invented yesterday

1708
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:01,440
the uh

1709
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:02,640
uh

1710
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,120
about

1711
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,480
uh the reaction from everybody uh from

1712
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,760
seeing this

1713
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,440
um i don't know how much you're gonna

1714
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:15,440
show maybe the first segment or maybe

1715
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:17,120
the first two episodes

1716
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:20,560
but um what do you think the the the

1717
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,679
reaction is going to be from everybody

1718
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:26,400
uh here you're going to present

1719
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:30,080
at uh at the megacon in just you know 10

1720
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:31,199
days

1721
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:32,800
this is going to go down how do you

1722
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,669
well we're only going to play the first

1723
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,679
couple chapters and i don't know i don't

1724
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,440
know the i don't know the audience

1725
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:42,960
for that kind of uh

1726
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,360
you know conference

1727
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,880
you know this is all new to me i'm not

1728
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:48,080
i'm not

1729
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:50,880
big into the cecilia the the

1730
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,840
alien ufo disclosure worlds um although

1731
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:55,440
i'm excited to see what's happening you

1732
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,640
know now with a lot of that i think

1733
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:58,159
that's big the bigger focus right now is

1734
01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:59,040
going to be the question of what the

1735
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:02,239
pentagon you know is doing by by backing

1736
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,920
this disclosure effort

1737
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,480
it's like well that's new

1738
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:08,000
you didn't use to back the disclosure

1739
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:10,400
effort what happened right

1740
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,080
you know what let me ask you

1741
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,719
you and i don't really talk about aliens

1742
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:16,480
and e.t too much

1743
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,360
um

1744
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,199
but what do you what do you think is

1745
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,440
going on i mean you you're a member of

1746
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:24,000
the media this is what you do you're a

1747
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:25,760
reporter you're a researcher you got

1748
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,560
buzzsaw you have rt and all of the work

1749
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,080
that you have done

1750
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,719
um going into different conspiracies and

1751
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:34,960
things around the world and then we have

1752
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,640
this all of a sudden

1753
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:39,360
where the pentagon is suddenly the ufo

1754
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,440
community's best friend right

1755
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:45,199
what a flip-flop

1756
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,960
what's going on

1757
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,159
right

1758
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:49,920
um

1759
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:53,120
you know you can't discount uh

1760
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:55,280
you can't discount what uh god what's

1761
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,470
who am i thinking of uh

1762
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:03,360
greer greer said you know as far as

1763
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,600
they're going to use this

1764
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:07,920
to um you know to push this whole you

1765
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:10,480
know conspiracy around uh

1766
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:13,679
the alien invasion right

1767
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:16,000
and so we can't just we cannot

1768
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:22,390
but why um

1769
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:25,440
it's not just if we looked just at the

1770
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:27,840
pentagon that's one thing

1771
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,800
but to have uh the director of national

1772
01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:33,040
intelligence the dni now he's got to

1773
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:34,719
compile a report

1774
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:36,960
present that to the senate you've got

1775
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,760
the the pilot's testimony

1776
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,000
of what's going on so we've got that and

1777
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:43,920
then we have the other stuff around that

1778
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:45,679
sean where we have

1779
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,400
science and astronomy and physics you

1780
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,880
know talking about the search for alien

1781
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:52,480
life and we've got

1782
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,280
uh

1783
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,440
perseverance right now looking for life

1784
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:56,640
on mars

1785
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:59,440
it's it's it's like everything is aliens

1786
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,120
and e.t

1787
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,199
right now from all directions in the

1788
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,440
media and the pentagon

1789
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:07,760
it's a it's very strange to me it's a

1790
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:16,870
uh again it's it's

1791
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:17,920
it's a mixture of things we talked a

1792
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,880
little bit earlier about how

1793
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:20,880
consciousness is shifting and there's a

1794
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,120
consciousness of humanity that's ready

1795
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:25,280
to explore you know the reality of the

1796
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,120
ufo phenomenon but then there's also um

1797
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:31,120
potentially the verna von braun warning

1798
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,600
and the agenda that was talked about of

1799
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:35,840
the project bluebee uh was it bluebeam

1800
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:36,560
yeah

1801
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:37,520
that was

1802
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:39,360
you know this idea of will they will the

1803
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,960
government what the obamas of the world

1804
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:42,960
the new world order agenda try to use

1805
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:46,400
this to manipulate uh populations

1806
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:49,040
into greater submission

1807
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:49,390
as

1808
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,040
[Music]

1809
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:55,199
as we've seen obviously the past year

1810
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:57,360
you know with just covet alone and the

1811
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,120
desire for the great reset you know it's

1812
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:01,360
like constant

1813
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:03,840
tireless drum beating of you know submit

1814
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:04,560
to

1815
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:10,159
people still anyone falls for this

1816
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:11,120
anymore

1817
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:13,760
i i'm picturing you right now on la

1818
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:16,960
cienega uh

1819
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:19,360
am i close

1820
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:28,149
strolling through beverly hills um but

1821
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:30,080
but there's a there's another part to

1822
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:32,000
this though um i feel that there's

1823
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:33,600
another layer

1824
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,719
because if like with best kept secrets

1825
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,480
sons of sam

1826
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,080
disclosure

1827
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:42,560
uh e.t

1828
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,840
this is this is a world-changing it's

1829
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:47,760
like everybody's

1830
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,320
world it's a paradigm shift where there

1831
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,239
is another thing going on that you may

1832
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:54,560
have not been aware of and it's

1833
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,080
multi-layered

1834
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:58,400
is the world ready for all of this i'm

1835
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,199
i'm being very serious sean

1836
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,760
is the world ready for uh for ufo

1837
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:05,040
disclosure

1838
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:07,760
and best kept secrets and satanic

1839
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:09,120
pedophile

1840
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,560
child sacrifice you know it this is this

1841
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:14,800
is very deep stuff for everybody to just

1842
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:21,510
um why not it's my question i mean we've

1843
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:22,719
been around

1844
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,280
enough

1845
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:27,600
i think that

1846
01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:29,440
we know intuitively that there's more

1847
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:31,840
going on here

1848
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,910
this is the best yeah this is the best

1849
01:18:42,070 --> 01:18:39,600
interview i've ever done

1850
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:42,080
i've got i've got the background

1851
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:48,070
oh man

1852
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:49,440
um

1853
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:50,640
but you're

1854
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,159
this is as as people watch uh best kept

1855
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:56,960
secrets and this this starts to get uh

1856
01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:58,480
you're gonna have a lot of reaction

1857
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:00,159
you're gonna have media coming at you

1858
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,760
for interviews

1859
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,360
um you know

1860
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,000
when you're you know we we've got uh

1861
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:08,640
fresh off of epstein and everything that

1862
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:10,239
is involved with that

1863
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:12,719
that that's not even over yet

1864
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:13,840
um

1865
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,159
this is uh this is gonna be pretty

1866
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,400
intense for everybody to handle

1867
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:20,000
do you

1868
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:20,960
well

1869
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:24,719
yeah right yeah exactly exactly

1870
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,760
um you know we have been warned uh

1871
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:29,600
you know by different uh groups and

1872
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:32,560
agencies over the years that everything

1873
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:34,960
will collapse if the truth comes out

1874
01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:35,920
right

1875
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:38,000
we're living in our bubble and let's

1876
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:39,920
keep the blinders on

1877
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,040
uh the masses so they don't

1878
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:44,880
you know anarchy in the streets and

1879
01:19:52,410 --> 01:19:51,669
right right

1880
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,420
well

1881
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:55,520
[Laughter]

1882
01:19:59,189 --> 01:19:57,280
i'm ready for that

1883
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:59,199
yes why not

1884
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,480
well it

1885
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:02,239
you know and you bring up a great point

1886
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:05,679
because um after

1887
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:08,159
the new york times did their story back

1888
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:11,280
in uh december of 2017

1889
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:14,239
and exposing a secret ufo program inside

1890
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:15,520
of the pentagon and

1891
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:19,440
and all of that blew out um

1892
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,840
the vatican didn't collapse did it wall

1893
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,600
street is still there

1894
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:25,440
and i think that most of the world as

1895
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:27,199
they started to uh

1896
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:29,040
get exposed to this

1897
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:32,159
that their reaction was pretty blase

1898
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:33,840
right of course we're not alone in the

1899
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,880
universe

1900
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:36,719
what you thought that we were the only

1901
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,480
ones and that kind of surprised me

1902
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:42,320
right

1903
01:20:48,629 --> 01:20:43,440
why

1904
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:48,639
me

1905
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:51,040
um there were uh

1906
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,800
like members of my family and people

1907
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:54,639
that i know they know what i do for a

1908
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,600
job

1909
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:58,000
but they don't talk to me about ufos i

1910
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,280
don't talk to them about these subjects

1911
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:02,880
and suddenly

1912
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,040
they are talking about it

1913
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:06,639
and i didn't know that there was an

1914
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:08,080
interest or

1915
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:09,360
um

1916
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:15,110
made up minds on this

1917
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,159
where

1918
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:18,000
of course we're not alone and when i

1919
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,719
started to hear this over and over again

1920
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:23,040
it surprised me that everybody actually

1921
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:24,560
thinks about this

1922
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,480
right right they don't necessarily talk

1923
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,320
about it but it was it was pretty

1924
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:31,679
interesting and nobody freaked out

1925
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:38,629
well i'm glad i'm glad

1926
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:40,880
i mean it's to me it's just not normal

1927
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:42,080
right like this is the way that you know

1928
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:43,760
people like you and i think about the

1929
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:44,960
world

1930
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:47,840
it's not a shocker no it's not it's not

1931
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:50,560
and uh going back to

1932
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,840
uh sons of uh sam for a minute if if we

1933
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:54,960
can

1934
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:57,199
as i was watching it

1935
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:58,000
and

1936
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:01,440
uh maury terry went as he put i don't

1937
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,600
think maury knew where he was going with

1938
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:05,199
all of this in the beginning of course

1939
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:06,000
not

1940
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:07,920
but as he

1941
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:10,719
started to see the obvious and started

1942
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:11,760
to go

1943
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:14,960
down the roads that he went on uh you

1944
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,600
know ultimately wrote the book and

1945
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,520
and did a lot of media

1946
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:21,679
around the country

1947
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:24,800
he gave everybody what they needed

1948
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:27,040
everybody including the new york police

1949
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:30,000
department and it was all laid out and

1950
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,040
nobody wanted to touch that nobody

1951
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:35,600
wanted to go into that zone it was case

1952
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:39,360
closed berkowitz was in prison

1953
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,880
we're not going to open up these doors

1954
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:42,400
again

1955
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:43,520
exactly

1956
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:44,800
that's a bit

1957
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:48,080
it do you think it was because of the

1958
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,560
the the satanic part of it there was

1959
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:52,159
another thing that i wanted to uh

1960
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:53,120
mention

1961
01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:54,800
uh if i can

1962
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:55,920
the

1963
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:01,920
and and satanic and occult and and and

1964
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,360
the dark things

1965
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,760
then it suddenly turns into comedy for

1966
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:07,120
most people

1967
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,400
right right

1968
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,639
why is that i mean

1969
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:12,880
it's blatant isn't it and this is the

1970
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:14,960
other thing if you when you watch sense

1971
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:16,960
of sam maury terry

1972
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,639
instead of being on you know cnn or 60

1973
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:21,600
minutes

1974
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:24,880
he's on geraldo right he's on the mori

1975
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,280
show right but

1976
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:29,679
geraldo was was was doing good work you

1977
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:31,840
know he was

1978
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,520
he was doing expose he was you know

1979
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:35,040
because it was looking for the story

1980
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,400
that was the point you know that was the

1981
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:39,120
great the great thing about that era

1982
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,400
and there's even a good documentary

1983
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:43,040
about the um national inquirer that came

1984
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,080
out uh

1985
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:45,760
a couple you know a couple of years ago

1986
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,960
and it's like a lot of these journals

1987
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:48,880
are hard copy they they were doing real

1988
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:50,639
journalism you know now it's just

1989
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:53,120
there's no journalist

1990
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:54,560
it's just a bunch of bloggers you know

1991
01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:57,120
it's all so corporate controlled right

1992
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,880
the narrative is so it's so boring it's

1993
01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,080
like there's not much investigative

1994
01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,639
journalism anymore yeah you i'm going to

1995
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:04,639
make you laugh you want honest

1996
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:07,120
journalism today real hard working

1997
01:24:10,180 --> 01:24:09,280
journalism and i'm not kidding

1998
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,190
tmz

1999
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:12,320
[Laughter]

2000
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,280
tmz will get to the story before anybody

2001
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,480
else right that's funny yeah yeah i'm

2002
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:20,159
not kidding about that

2003
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:25,990
they work yeah they work they're making

2004
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:28,080
an effort um

2005
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,600
and uh uh one last thing as uh as we

2006
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,199
start to wind down here with something

2007
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:35,360
like best kept secrets

2008
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:36,400
why

2009
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,239
today

2010
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:42,000
i understand it's gone completely

2011
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:43,040
corporate

2012
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:46,960
but everything everything now is cut and

2013
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:48,719
paced journalism

2014
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,199
right there isn't anybody investigating

2015
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:53,440
and doing real work and and doing the

2016
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,400
deep dive there are opportunities to go

2017
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:58,320
and investigate all kinds of things

2018
01:25:01,750 --> 01:24:59,280
today

2019
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:01,760
but nobody chooses to do that why do you

2020
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:05,840
think media has so quickly evolved into

2021
01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:15,430
uh

2022
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,430
because it's been bought it's all

2023
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:19,440
corporate i mean that's that simple

2024
01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,320
right

2025
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:21,679
it literally has

2026
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,229
so what do you do in that case

2027
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:30,149
well

2028
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,750
i just said when media has been bought

2029
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,199
what do you do

2030
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:39,440
well it's like everybody wants to take

2031
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,040
the easy road you know i go uh every day

2032
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,120
and i know you do the same thing you're

2033
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:48,000
researching you're investigating and you

2034
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,880
go and you look at one outlet and see

2035
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:52,960
what they say and you go to another one

2036
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:55,760
and it's the it's a cut and paste

2037
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,719
right nobody's writing an article

2038
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:00,560
they're cutting and pasting and sharing

2039
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,000
everything across thousands of platforms

2040
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,960
and there as there isn't anything that

2041
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:09,280
is actually being researched there isn't

2042
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:10,800
any actual

2043
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,480
work being done

2044
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:14,800
and that that goes right over to the

2045
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:16,719
talking heads on tv

2046
01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,440
it's the same approach

2047
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,520
right

2048
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:23,760
how do we change it

2049
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:25,280
we don't

2050
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:31,510
that's not my

2051
01:26:36,629 --> 01:26:33,760
well but it kind of is

2052
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:36,639
right this is what you do and

2053
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:39,360
you're you're not going to do cut and

2054
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:42,560
paste research on on best kept secrets

2055
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:44,960
you know you're going to go and do the

2056
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:45,840
work

2057
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:52,229
um

2058
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:53,679
i don't know

2059
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:57,600
just say i'm just

2060
01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,320
i have maybe sometimes a more open mind

2061
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:02,159
because i'm allowed to because i haven't

2062
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:03,679
been brainwashed

2063
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,560
but

2064
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,719
right

2065
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:08,880
well you know i've seen your interview

2066
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,679
style you know i've watched enough of uh

2067
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:13,199
your work

2068
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,159
and

2069
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:16,400
you ask questions

2070
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:19,120
you go there and and and when i watch

2071
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:20,639
other uh

2072
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:22,159
uh and it doesn't matter what the

2073
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:23,520
program is

2074
01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:26,960
there isn't an effort to do anything

2075
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:29,199
right sean it's incredible to watch and

2076
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,669
yeah

2077
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:36,960
i get it

2078
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,390
now how are um

2079
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:44,560
how are you going to you're going to be

2080
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:47,440
on a panel with me at ufo megacon that's

2081
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,199
going to be great and that's going to be

2082
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,520
easy because i'm going to be there

2083
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,760
uh asking you questions

2084
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:55,920
but how are you going to

2085
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:58,880
uh introduce best kept secrets

2086
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:01,120
you know you you need to

2087
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:02,239
uh

2088
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,760
you you know what i mean it's it's a

2089
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:09,440
difficult subject have you thought about

2090
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,709
um

2091
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,790
i i don't i i haven't thought i don't

2092
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,800
think about that i really don't i just i

2093
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,800
honestly like i'm there to the festival

2094
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,880
i'll do the festival um you know it's

2095
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:26,159
just gonna flow the way it's meant to

2096
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:32,470
hey sean

2097
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,520
yeah enjoy the rest of your night man

2098
01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,440
thank you i can't i can't wait to see

2099
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,679
you next week uh we haven't been able to

2100
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,360
hang out now for

2101
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,600
for over a a year and a half and i can't

2102
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:45,679
even believe that much time has gone by

2103
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,840
since i've seen you but uh i look

2104
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,600
forward to hanging out with you next

2105
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:52,239
week in laughlin and and just be safe

2106
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:55,040
and i'll see you in about 10 days

2107
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:56,480
awesome sounds great you're the best

2108
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,400
sean thank you so much my friend

2109
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:00,719
got it thanks right on

2110
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:03,840
sean stone and uh

2111
01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:05,440
i'm gonna take a quick break right here

2112
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:06,800
i'm gonna open up the phone lines for

2113
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:08,159
the rest of the night

2114
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,400
um i knew that uh uh sean just got in

2115
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:14,880
from out of country and that's what we

2116
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:17,360
had to do tonight uh to make this happen

2117
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:19,760
but we pulled it off

2118
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:21,120
i'll be right back after this short

2119
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:24,530
break stay with us

2120
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:38,070
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2121
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:41,120
you're listening to fade to black

2122
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:42,960
always on the edge of the hottest

2123
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:45,679
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2124
01:29:51,580 --> 01:30:04,950
[Applause]

2125
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,750
or not of course you do this is jimmy

2126
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:10,000
church of fade to black just go to our

2127
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:11,199
membership section at

2128
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:16,629
this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

2129
01:30:22,629 --> 01:30:19,120
ufo megacon this june 6th through the

2130
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:22,639
12th 2021 in laughlin nevada the

2131
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:25,600
laughlin ufo megacon is unique it's

2132
01:30:31,430 --> 01:30:28,080
seven days of education and disclosure

2133
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,440
it's unlike all other ufo conferences

2134
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,440
the laughlin ufo mega conference

2135
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,080
specializes in bringing you new people

2136
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:38,560
offering new information and disclosure

2137
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,880
all of this is offered at prices so low

2138
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:43,280
you can actually afford to be there

2139
01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:46,400
for instance seven night hotel packages

2140
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:49,760
one or two people start at just 320

2141
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:52,639
inclusive education and disclosure is

2142
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:54,639
why the laughlin ufo mega conference

2143
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:57,040
exists join us for all seven days or a

2144
01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:59,520
half a week or just a day or two but

2145
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:00,960
join us go to

2146
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:03,679
laughlinufomegaconference.com

2147
01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:06,480
register now the only thing keeping you

2148
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:08,560
from being with all of us is

2149
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:10,000
you just go to

2150
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,189
fader knots when you think about the

2151
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:23,040
future of our country and where we're

2152
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:24,880
headed do you wonder about the food

2153
01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:28,000
supply i do disruptions in the food

2154
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:30,159
supply chain could be disastrous and

2155
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:32,960
they usually occur with little warning

2156
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:34,960
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2157
01:31:40,950 --> 01:31:37,920
today is to stockpile emergency food

2158
01:31:43,669 --> 01:31:40,960
water and other essentials i personally

2159
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:43,679
recommend my patriot supply they're the

2160
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2161
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2162
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2163
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2164
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2165
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now save twenty percent off a full four

2166
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2167
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provide two thousand calories a day

2168
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:06,239
saving twenty percent helps too doesn't

2169
01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:09,600
it especially now so go to prepare with

2170
01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:12,719
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2171
01:32:16,390 --> 01:32:15,440
with jimmy dot com there's no time to

2172
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:16,400
lose

2173
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:18,880
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2186
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2187
01:32:55,290 --> 01:32:53,440
you listen to us and we listen to you

2188
01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:55,300
and so does the cia

2189
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:03,430
kgraradio.com

2190
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:05,430
you are listening to fate to black with

2191
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:11,030
oh

2192
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:12,800
i'm reece vance you're listening to

2193
01:33:18,550 --> 01:33:15,679
jimmy church this is revolution the

2194
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:18,560
revolution will not be televised the

2195
01:33:25,530 --> 01:33:21,840
revolution is on

2196
01:34:05,910 --> 01:33:42,870
[Music]

2197
01:34:09,189 --> 01:34:07,669
welcome back fade to black i am your

2198
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:09,199
host jimmy church

2199
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:11,600
i'm opening up the phone lines i really

2200
01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:13,600
need to talk to all of you

2201
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:16,840
it's been a long day

2202
01:34:21,430 --> 01:34:19,520
747 two two eight two zero five one

2203
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:21,440
seven four seven two two eight

2204
01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:24,080
two zero five one i said this earlier

2205
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:27,600
i'm gonna turn this into an ama ama

2206
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:30,880
ask me anything i'll bounce between uh

2207
01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:33,120
uh youtube and twitter and you guys can

2208
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:34,960
post whatever and and

2209
01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:36,639
you can certainly call in seven four

2210
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,639
seven two two eight two zero five one

2211
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:40,400
i'm exhausted

2212
01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:42,560
it's just been a really really long

2213
01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:44,800
trying day seven four seven

2214
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:52,070
sorry about that

2215
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:54,080
uh yeah it's been a it's been a long day

2216
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:56,080
okay let me grab some of these phone

2217
01:35:04,390 --> 01:34:58,800
calls and uh get everybody lined up and

2218
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:06,470
uh to pull this interview off today with

2219
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:10,000
sean it wasn't easy um and he just got

2220
01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:10,800
in

2221
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:13,360
uh to the united states and and we

2222
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:14,960
somehow pulled it off i want to thank

2223
01:35:19,750 --> 01:35:18,000
sean uh for taking the time tonight i

2224
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,760
have the feeling he was doing things

2225
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:22,000
like uh collecting luggage packing his

2226
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:23,040
car

2227
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,560
uh

2228
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:26,960
outside of lax and

2229
01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:29,360
and doing everything that uh but he's a

2230
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:31,119
professional and uh

2231
01:35:34,709 --> 01:35:32,880
and came in tonight and delivered so

2232
01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:34,719
thank you for that sean that was uh

2233
01:35:38,229 --> 01:35:36,000
absolutely

2234
01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:38,239
uh fantastic conversation it is a

2235
01:35:40,950 --> 01:35:40,080
difficult subject

2236
01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:40,960
uh

2237
01:35:46,070 --> 01:35:44,000
to to deal with what he is tackling here

2238
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:46,080
and i really mean this

2239
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:50,960
it is emotionally uh draining

2240
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:52,560
i went through it

2241
01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:55,440
and i swore after uh

2242
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:57,760
uh after sandusky that i would never

2243
01:36:00,870 --> 01:36:00,000
talk about that subject again and as you

2244
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:00,880
know

2245
01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:03,600
uh after doing uh this show for as many

2246
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:06,320
years as as we've done fade to black

2247
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:08,880
i i don't go into these subjects anymore

2248
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:11,920
i just i i won't do it uh

2249
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:13,520
for everybody that's on hold right now

2250
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:15,440
and if you get cut off i'm still gonna

2251
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:17,119
go back and answer the calls in order

2252
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:19,119
but i'm gonna bring in these these other

2253
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:21,520
calls real quick um

2254
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:23,360
uh that i would never go back and and

2255
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:25,520
deal with it because it took me to a

2256
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:27,040
dark place

2257
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:31,760
it anymore i just couldn't handle it and

2258
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:34,320
i i came in and and hilton and

2259
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:36,560
and charlie were in the studio that day

2260
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:38,480
and i remember uh

2261
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:39,920
saying you know what we're we're just

2262
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:42,400
not going to cover this anymore i i just

2263
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:43,520
can't do it

2264
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:45,440
uh we're going to go back to the

2265
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:47,440
original that's it

2266
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:48,800
no more

2267
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:52,960
and it was all over espn and and fox and

2268
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,239
cnn everything i i i just

2269
01:37:02,149 --> 01:36:59,199
i i i i tuned out

2270
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,159
i tuned out i had to get my brain back

2271
01:37:05,830 --> 01:37:04,159
i had to get my brain back all right

2272
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:05,840
let's see who's up first hi you're live

2273
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,400
i'm fade to black who's calling

2274
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,360
uh this is gareth from maine jimmy uh

2275
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:13,280
what's your name

2276
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,159
garrus hey garrus how you doing man

2277
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,080
great man how are you you can hear me

2278
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,400
fine i know yeah i got you i got you i

2279
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:22,400
got you all right all right i'm just in

2280
01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:24,960
the woods here you know

2281
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:26,159
fair enough

2282
01:37:31,510 --> 01:37:29,920
mind tonight

2283
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:31,520
well no i love your question about

2284
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:34,560
asking about how uh journalists um

2285
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,920
you know how things are going and why

2286
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:38,400
people aren't reporting things and

2287
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:41,199
yeah and he kind of nailed it with

2288
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,760
uh money being involved in the situation

2289
01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:45,600
it seems it's you know there's it's hard

2290
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:47,119
to find people who are true artists who

2291
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:49,600
want to commit themselves

2292
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,320
to that kind of craft and be able to

2293
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:54,480
really get to the grit of these stories

2294
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:57,119
and expose things without kind of along

2295
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:58,719
the way

2296
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:00,719
with any trail you know they're tempted

2297
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:03,920
by money and and different positions and

2298
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:05,600
moving up and

2299
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:09,600
so it seems to be this kind of uh

2300
01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:12,000
what we're stuck in um

2301
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,159
that people are find it hard to get the

2302
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,320
truth out because it's not it's not

2303
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:18,000
profitable right

2304
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:19,840
um yeah that no i think we were talking

2305
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:20,880
about that too

2306
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,960
yes well we're raising money like for

2307
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:25,040
for ufo research you know i was

2308
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,320
listening to a show i don't know which

2309
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:27,840
it was uh maybe it was from a couple

2310
01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:30,719
weeks ago and it was a woman um

2311
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:32,480
i know she was talking about near-death

2312
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,560
experiences and talked about

2313
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:36,320
books and how it's very hard to raise

2314
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:37,280
money

2315
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:39,840
for these you know offshoots of these

2316
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,760
really subjects people are interested in

2317
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,520
but

2318
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:45,360
it's that's where we're dealing with

2319
01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,320
where science and spirituality meet how

2320
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:50,719
do we kind of balance these things out

2321
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:53,679
and accept everyone's beliefs

2322
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:56,159
um and uh kind of come to a realization

2323
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,480
that we're just living in both these

2324
01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:00,480
those spiritual planes and a physical

2325
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:02,239
plane and we have to balance these

2326
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:03,360
things out

2327
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:05,440
you know um and that's what we're here

2328
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:06,480
to do

2329
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,159
figure out

2330
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:10,080
why we're here to experience things and

2331
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:12,880
touch and feel and see but

2332
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,639
why can we also

2333
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,400
feel and touch things without being

2334
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,719
there so it's

2335
01:39:21,669 --> 01:39:20,320
yeah it's hard to explain to people but

2336
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:21,679
i'm sure you know you cover everything

2337
01:39:24,830 --> 01:39:23,280
in this show and i really appreciate it

2338
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,840
but

2339
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:26,639
um

2340
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:27,679
thank you

2341
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:29,280
well but you bring up a really good

2342
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:31,760
point garrus and that is this

2343
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:32,800
um

2344
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:35,360
we all have a vision

2345
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:38,560
of a reporter male female doesn't matter

2346
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:40,320
you know working working at the

2347
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:42,960
newspaper working at the desk and

2348
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:45,840
and you know getting a lead on a story

2349
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:48,159
and then just going out and and working

2350
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:49,840
that story for

2351
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,560
for weeks and and and just just

2352
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:55,119
uncovering the truth and

2353
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,920
and

2354
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,440
that that

2355
01:40:02,070 --> 01:40:00,000
that doesn't exist anymore

2356
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:02,080
and well and i think

2357
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:04,719
like your platform gives us all

2358
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:07,119
an opportunity

2359
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,280
that's right you know you you want to

2360
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:11,199
make a living and we all know that's how

2361
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:12,480
the world works

2362
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:14,639
um but really it

2363
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:15,600
what this

2364
01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:17,360
is an opportunity to do is connect with

2365
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:18,560
everybody

2366
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:21,440
so we can share our different you know

2367
01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:23,199
well experience is really the most

2368
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:25,199
beautiful part that we get to hear about

2369
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,040
everyone's different experiences and

2370
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:29,920
when they mirror and mimic your own

2371
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,000
and then we can line them up

2372
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,080
and we start seeing a pattern right

2373
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,199
we're clearly seeing now

2374
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:39,040
we're getting to it now but it hasn't

2375
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,199
taken a long time where a lot of us

2376
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,600
we see it we talk about it we don't want

2377
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,400
any monetary reward but we just want

2378
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:48,560
everyone to see what we've seen because

2379
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:49,600
once you

2380
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:52,080
have seen it you won't go back there's

2381
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:54,560
no not seeing it like that then that's

2382
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:55,679
the

2383
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:01,280
somebody who sees it it's very hard to

2384
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:03,760
come see it

2385
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:06,159
just amazing stuff and like that's uh

2386
01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:07,360
the recent

2387
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:08,719
oh and i didn't know about this whole

2388
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:11,280
story the trinity story

2389
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:13,280
you know and you uh i can't remember the

2390
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:14,960
guests you had on but it was amazing

2391
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:15,760
just

2392
01:41:27,430 --> 01:41:25,590
and you know they spent they spent five

2393
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:27,440
years working on that

2394
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:28,639
and yeah

2395
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,880
and here's the thing garrus um and i

2396
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:32,400
want gonna thank you for the phone call

2397
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:34,560
uh you brought up some great points

2398
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:37,199
tonight but here's the thing

2399
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:40,000
i remember um i'm not gonna say who it

2400
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:42,000
was but um

2401
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:44,480
when i was going to school

2402
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:46,639
for broadcasting one of the

2403
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:49,360
uh teachers was from cnn

2404
01:41:53,669 --> 01:41:52,400
and uh and i said to him i said hey

2405
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:53,679
right

2406
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,639
you you got a ufo case

2407
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:58,880
and uh you know you've got the singing

2408
01:42:01,590 --> 01:42:00,800
you've got everything put together

2409
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,600
um

2410
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:03,040
what do you do with that do you do you

2411
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,360
go to the news director and pitch the

2412
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,600
story he goes you are fine

2413
01:42:12,830 --> 01:42:10,080
because i would never do that you can't

2414
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:12,840
do that ufos are the kiss of death in

2415
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,520
journalism and i was like yeah but you

2416
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:17,199
know it's this case and you've got the

2417
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:18,880
pictures and you've got the witnesses

2418
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:20,960
and you've got the yeah

2419
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,119
he was like dude

2420
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:25,040
i would never do that

2421
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:30,239
wouldn't allow me to i was so bummed

2422
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:31,920
and then um

2423
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:32,800
uh

2424
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,000
everybody listen you have to respect

2425
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:40,800
this i can't say who but i was with

2426
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:44,400
the the the cfo of

2427
01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:46,960
one of the major networks okay i'm

2428
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:48,880
talking about the tippy top of the tippy

2429
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,159
top he's a friend of mine and i said hey

2430
01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:54,400
i'm getting ready to graduate

2431
01:43:06,070 --> 01:42:56,560
i want to

2432
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:06,080
want to do that man there's no future in

2433
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:06,960
that

2434
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:12,159
i was like but i do

2435
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,000
that's what i want to do i don't want to

2436
01:43:18,629 --> 01:43:16,000
be anderson cooper

2437
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,639
right i don't want to be that guy i want

2438
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,000
to be

2439
01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:22,560
out here for the people i really want to

2440
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,639
do my thing and and go out there yes

2441
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:26,400
there's no future in that

2442
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,119
and he just hit the art form he just

2443
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:31,600
shot it down man it was an art form shot

2444
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:34,000
it down and that's why that's why

2445
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:35,520
ultimately

2446
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,800
uh fade to black was started and and my

2447
01:43:42,310 --> 01:43:41,119
first little uh radio thing that i was

2448
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,320
doing

2449
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:43,760
because i knew

2450
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,840
that i had the freedom to do whatever i

2451
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,119
wanted here

2452
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:49,199
and and get to the bottom of the

2453
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:52,159
questions that i have without having

2454
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,320
somebody tell me what to do

2455
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:55,920
right and then paint with your own

2456
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:57,920
palette that's it man

2457
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:59,840
take your own colors brother that's it i

2458
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:00,880
mean that's

2459
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,560
that's how it works you see the world in

2460
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:03,920
your own way and then you grow up and

2461
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:05,920
share it yeah that's your job and you do

2462
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:09,119
it well yeah i i don't drive a bentley

2463
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,880
not that you know

2464
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,280
you know i i don't drive a bentley but i

2465
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:15,360
can provide for my family

2466
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:18,239
i can cover the bills and i i've

2467
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:21,040
achieved bliss in that i love that

2468
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,760
guitar collection can you buddy yeah

2469
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:25,920
i said that took a lot of years that

2470
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,520
didn't just fall out of the sky

2471
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:30,000
overnight oh oh i'm sure you didn't

2472
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,840
trade it

2473
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,600
that's it man

2474
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:35,440
that's it you start with uh you start

2475
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:37,840
with a pack of strings and a pick and

2476
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,239
you just work your way up gareth thank

2477
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:42,400
you so much man great great phone call

2478
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:44,000
thank you so much my man

2479
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:45,840
of course love you bud have a great

2480
01:44:50,709 --> 01:44:48,159
night and i uh yeah but you know

2481
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:50,719
condolences to you thank you i've been

2482
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,880
there at a younger age but uh love you

2483
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:54,400
and your family yeah thank you so much

2484
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,560
gary behave and be well very welcome

2485
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:59,280
okay thank you yeah remember man you're

2486
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:01,040
out there in the middle of the woods

2487
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:03,920
so uh anything could be uh traveling

2488
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:06,000
over your shoulder

2489
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:08,400
all right let me grab these calls in

2490
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:11,440
order let's go here next

2491
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,239
and uh let's see who's up

2492
01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:17,280
hi you're like oh whoa whoa whoa whoa

2493
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:18,719
you're live on fade to black who's

2494
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,800
calling

2495
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:22,320
scarlet fire

2496
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,480
this is who

2497
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:26,239
scarlet fire

2498
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:32,320
yeah i'm one of you guys on uh we follow

2499
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:35,199
you on youtube oh right on right on how

2500
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:37,520
you doing tonight

2501
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:40,000
great uh i want to complain about no

2502
01:45:45,290 --> 01:45:42,320
term limits in washington dc that could

2503
01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:45,300
break up the mafia of politics

2504
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:53,910
you know wouldn't that be a great day

2505
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:56,239
when uh you know i don't talk politics

2506
01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:58,639
on the show you know this but

2507
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,320
if there is one thing that needs to be

2508
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:03,840
fixed uh

2509
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:04,639
for

2510
01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:08,719
great country

2511
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:10,159
term limits

2512
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:13,360
man that would just straighten up that

2513
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,119
would just straighten up everything that

2514
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:17,360
was straight up and that term limits for

2515
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:19,679
not only washington

2516
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:21,280
congress and senate and the house of

2517
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:24,480
reps uh the uh uh how about governors

2518
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:26,639
how about mayors

2519
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:28,880
right yeah just just straight across the

2520
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:30,480
board you can't be the mayor of this

2521
01:46:35,109 --> 01:46:34,000
city for 50 years you get one crack four

2522
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:35,119
years

2523
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:37,119
you know you come in and you do your

2524
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,400
best and it would it would just

2525
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:41,119
straighten them because all politicians

2526
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,639
are bought and paid for

2527
01:46:47,669 --> 01:46:45,119
you know and and that's it that's it

2528
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:47,679
they're all bought and paid for

2529
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,840
they don't care about you and me they

2530
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:51,600
don't they care about their interests in

2531
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:54,560
the lobbyists and

2532
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:56,239
that's the truth and by the time you're

2533
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,199
done spending 30 40 years in washington

2534
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,679
yeah you're just corrupt

2535
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:03,920
that's it it's the truth

2536
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:06,840
term limits i agree i agree

2537
01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:09,600
scarlett uh we got one other issue going

2538
01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:12,400
on too is the fact that uh we allow

2539
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:15,199
google to uh merge with youtube that's

2540
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,520
an illegal monopoly who's in charge in

2541
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:19,520
this country do something about it well

2542
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:23,119
you you know okay but this is i have um

2543
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:25,119
that's where i actually have a little

2544
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:27,040
bit of issue we're probably not on the

2545
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:28,320
same page

2546
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:30,880
and let me explain to you why

2547
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:33,360
um we're a capitalistic society we're

2548
01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:34,960
based on money

2549
01:47:40,229 --> 01:47:36,400
okay and

2550
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,239
you i when you go and you how how can

2551
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,080
you predict

2552
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:44,320
that you and your buddies are in your

2553
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:47,520
parents garage literally in your parents

2554
01:47:52,229 --> 01:47:50,320
garage and you build a little platform

2555
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:52,239
called google and you guys write the

2556
01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:54,320
code and you just graduated college and

2557
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:56,320
you build a search engine that everybody

2558
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:57,280
needs

2559
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:59,040
how do you know

2560
01:48:02,870 --> 01:48:00,639
that it's going to become the biggest

2561
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:02,880
thing in the world you don't know that

2562
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:04,639
but it happens

2563
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:07,600
right now and while the growth is

2564
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:09,920
happening with your new little piece of

2565
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:11,119
software

2566
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:13,440
and you have the ability to look at new

2567
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,000
technology like youtube and build a

2568
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:18,960
video platform and and and you take and

2569
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:21,520
you and you buy that and you've invented

2570
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,800
you know youtube and you put that

2571
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,800
together and you sell it

2572
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,600
you know to google or or you don't

2573
01:48:30,550 --> 01:48:28,800
whatever

2574
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:30,560
i'm not so sure that there's anything

2575
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:33,280
wrong with success

2576
01:48:37,430 --> 01:48:35,600
you know i and and if you did it you

2577
01:48:39,430 --> 01:48:37,440
know scarlet if you were the one doing

2578
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,440
it what's wrong with that

2579
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:42,159
we all want like like fade to black what

2580
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:46,080
if fade to black grew and and and i

2581
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:49,040
bought premier radio networks right i

2582
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:52,080
don't know it's possible yeah but

2583
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,800
should i be told i can't

2584
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:57,040
i'm not so sure automatic it's out of

2585
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:58,239
control

2586
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:59,679
you know it's they

2587
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:01,280
they they turned the president of the

2588
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:04,560
united states off i mean yeah

2589
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:07,520
again again this is uh

2590
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,199
these are controversial subjects but um

2591
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:13,520
let me let me just say this

2592
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,719
um you're on youtube right okay so

2593
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:19,440
you're on my youtube channel right now

2594
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:22,159
and and i'm over here and i'm scrolling

2595
01:49:26,870 --> 01:49:25,040
through and i'm looking at uh everybody

2596
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:26,880
commenting here and i've got this video

2597
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:29,040
i'm looking at my face right now there i

2598
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:31,679
am i'm looking at me looking at you

2599
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:32,480
um

2600
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:36,719
but i play within the rules

2601
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:38,880
i play within

2602
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,560
don't cross those lines why

2603
01:49:53,589 --> 01:49:51,199
because i want to stay on the platform i

2604
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:53,599
don't own the platform somebody else

2605
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:54,719
does

2606
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:57,599
and if i don't play within the rules

2607
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:59,440
they can kick me off

2608
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:01,040
it's that simple

2609
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:02,159
um

2610
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:02,880
and

2611
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,840
on the flip side i own fade to black

2612
01:50:10,229 --> 01:50:07,280
this is mine

2613
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:10,239
right you're on my phone system that i

2614
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:13,440
pay for right you're a guest in my house

2615
01:50:17,830 --> 01:50:14,960
but i own it

2616
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:17,840
and if you step out of line

2617
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:19,440
on this show

2618
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:21,679
i kick you off right

2619
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:24,080
i terminate the phone call because i

2620
01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:25,840
have that right here i see the point you

2621
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:26,800
know and

2622
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:30,320
it's it's as fundamental as that if i

2623
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:32,080
step out of bounds i've gotten in

2624
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:34,880
trouble with youtube i have i had to

2625
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:36,840
back back up and start playing by the

2626
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:41,360
rules but if you if if you get warned

2627
01:50:47,750 --> 01:50:45,040
and warned and warned and warned again

2628
01:50:49,189 --> 01:50:47,760
and they let that leash out and you keep

2629
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:49,199
doing it no matter who you are it

2630
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:50,800
doesn't matter who you are

2631
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:52,639
you know there's a zone you're not

2632
01:51:17,189 --> 01:50:55,679
supposed to go into you know the zone

2633
01:51:17,199 --> 01:51:21,109
thank you

2634
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:23,270
um i'll give you an example scarlet you

2635
01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:25,199
seem like a pretty smart guy

2636
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:27,920
okay all right you do

2637
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:57,189
be on the front page